A Beam in Her Eye and Proud of it

Ingrid Schlueter and the slicers and dicers at Laodicea , seem to have a twenty four hour watch on things apostate. I wonder how they have developed such a keen sniffer for such things. Well, it’s quite easy, first you need to believe you and you alone have a corner on the truth and anything that does not line up with your truth is of course false, and therefore apostate. Then you write a story about it and accentuate only what you want to about the story, leave out anything that would be redeeming about the church, person ect. your ripping apart. Next have your band of merry men and women all chime in on the comment section, validating your latest slice and dice, and lastly delete any comments from anyone that can poke the preverbal hole in the irrationality of your post.

It goes something like this:

Find a picture of a church sign that is advertising an upcoming event – Comedy Night – July 21 7PM –9PM and laugh all night. Post the picture of the church sign with the post title of“Lukewarm and Proud of it”. Soon the amen corner will show up and they are all amazed at how Ingrid has found yet another fantastic example of how pathetic the 21 century church is.

Forget to mention that this church in fact has a very sound doctrinal statement that is far from lukewarm. Forget to mention that the Comedy Night was not on a Sunday, but was in fact on a Friday and was scheduled to be a part of a “Date Night” or “Family Night Out” that the church was sponsoring to foster fellowship amongst its members. And lastly disparage the ministry of Christian Comedian Mike Williams, and mention nothing of his marvelous Christian ministry and his testimony where he talks about how God saved him from a horrific family life. How is he was born in Chicago to a drug abusing Mom, and a father that eventually committed suicide. All his siblings either died in prison or became addicted to drugs and became prostitutes. His mother gave him away to a Christian couple that had been praying for a child for 12 years, where they raised him in a Godly home, and he too became a Christian.
I praise God for his sovereignty, and how He miraculously rescued Mike from his horrible home life, and how he was placed in the arms of a wonderful childless Christian couple, who prayed for a baby for many years. What providence.

But of course a more indepth anayisis is not what sites like these do. They would much rather troll the internet and news sources to find headlines that fit their extermely narrow minded point of view.

Oh yeah, one other thing, when the senior pastor asks you to remove the post, do so quietly, and offer no apology for slandering a church and a ministry, ( your supposed to be gratefull that her Ingridness has heard the gracious petition and has agreed to remove the post, even after the slanderous post was exposed on the internet and on Laodicea’s site that is getting 100,000+ page views per week).

And one last thing, don’t attempted to communicate with Ingrid, because it will go something like this:

Hello,

You had a post called Luke Warm and Proud of It, concerning a church that had a Comedy Night, Google has it as July 14th (http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/archives/2006/07/lukewarm_and_pr.php) which shows up at this link, but not in your blog archives under July 2006. Any idea what happened to it?


Hi Steve,

I took the post down after an email conversation with the pastor of the church. I didn't realize the comments were still up. The site exasperates me when I try to take something down because it never seems to get everything erased. I felt that I needed to remove the post after talking with the pastor.

Ingrid



Hi Ingrid,

Well, I am glad you did, because I think the post was uncalled for, and since it was posted and commented on, you really should also post a public retraction to the ministries you slandered, both Southcrest and Mike Williams, the Christian comedian who was coming to the church for a family night out.

Steve


Steven,

I can always put it back up again. I stand by my statement that comedians don't belong in church, period. I took it down mainly because of the pastor's gracious spirit and his request that it be taken down. As his sister in Christ, I honored that. It doesn't change the reality of the fact that rather than prayer meetings to bring in funds, churches now do fund raisers with comedians and feature their appearances on the church sign. "Laugh all night...at church!" I object to that and have publicly said so. Don't push me, Steve.

Ingrid

Ingrid,

Not sure what "don't push me Steve", means. Is that some type of threat or something. If it is, believe me, I'm not scared. The fact of the matter is, is that you publicly slandered a church and the ministry of a Christian comedian who has a wonderful testimony , and instead of admitting your error in the same public way you slandered them, you quietly remove the post. Yes, put it back up again, it would be more honest.

Steve


Isn't it interesting, Steve, the different response you got from that of the pastor of the church? You email me demanding apologies and public retractions and telling me what to do with my site, accusing me of slander and more. Your email is in stark contrast to the courteous complaint of the pastor. You received a very different response because your spirit is very different. Your angry and nasty personal tone is tempting me to react in the flesh as well. I will not post any retraction because as I have said already, I stand by my belief that the church of Jesus Christ is no place for fun family outings featuring laugh all night comedians, period. You can call that slander if you want to, it does not matter to me. But I will not tolerate being told what to do on my site, anymore than you would tolerate me telling you what to do. My email communication with you is over with this email. I would suggest you take a deep breath and ask the Lord exactly how he would have you handle your anger. At this end, all I hear is wrath, which as our exchange proves, doesn't work the righteusness of God. Ingrid



Yes, Ingrid, publicly posting a picture of a Church with the caption, “Luke Warm and Proud of It”, is slandering the church, as well as Mike Williams ministry, especially when you know nothing about either ministries. And your right, I can see any further communication with you concerning the subject will get no where.

I have found the best way to deal with these sites is blog about them when you must (since they won't post contrary opinions), other than that delete them from your bookmarks and try to forget they exsist.

Personally, I agree with Brad on this one and I think Phil Johnson, while he had a very eloquent post about Guilt By Association, however I think he really missed the mark in his last paragraph. Not many bloggers use the tactics that SOL does and his drumbeat that his post applies to us all (which it does), but refuses to call Ingrid out specifically on her acidic post titles and content baffles me.





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